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| ARRIVED |
June
2010 |
| ADOPTABILITY |
future available,
see
below for details |
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- Feed: needs a sponsor!
- Medical: needed!
Please see below.
- **NEEDS SURGERY AUG 2010 -- will you
help???
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| BREED/AGE |
5-yo (2005 model)
Registered Quarter Horse (not yet gelded, see below) |
Jack,
"Spanish Eyed Eddie"! click
the boxed photo to
enlarge...
| Skills Report Card! |
| Overall
Health: requires surgery --
please help! |
We
don't quite know what
happened in Jack's past.
We are told he was emaciated, but otherwise healthy when he got to the
prior owner.
He currently is slightly overweight, muscular and fit, and has a lot of
energy.
Jack has no visible soundness issues whatsoever. We look forward to
getting his intake vet care completed.
*08/2010:
JACK NEEDS SURGERY IN AUG 2010 -- will you help??? (see below for
details)
We are 90+% certain that Jack is a Cryptorchid, which means that (sorry
this is
not PG!) he has one testicle stuck up in his abdomenal cavity. A vet
took the 'easy one', but never found the 2nd, so
while Jack appears to be gelded, he really is not.
Even if Jack not being fully fixed was not a risk of him getting a mare
pregnant (it is), there are numerous other risks to leaving Jack as he
stands currently. Jack has a far higher likelihood of testicular
cancers, of other abdomenal issues related to the unexpected presence
of that testicle. Most significantly, Jack thinks he is a stallion, and
cannot be allowed to be pastured with other horses. His testosterone
level will cause him to attempt to breed every mare, and potentially
hurt those who will not comply; more significantly, he will want a
'harem' and will run off or kill other males (he doesn't know or care
what a gelding is) to keep his mares.
Jack's surgery will cost between $800 and $1500 without complications,
and requires him to stay overnight at the vet hospital and have
extensive post-surgical care. Please consider donating to help us to
help Jack. Until his surgery is done and he is recovered, he is
required to live alone in a separate area, where he cannot get close or
touch other horses. |
| Ground
manners: C |
Previously,
Jack has been
allowed to
dominate humans, but clearly has also once had proper manners. He is
rapidly figuring out that we will expect good citizenship of him, and
is making fast progress already, and this is only day 1!
As of 2 weeks, Jack is leading with respectable manners, and being
polite while getting his grain and hay; has had his first bath, and is
reasonably handling his front hooves. He is OK with flyspray but still
nervous about it.
We aren't asking a lot of Jack
yet, just letting him get settled into our world. |
| Basic
Riding Skills: N/A |
We
are told Jack would
allow a child to sit on him while on a lead. He has clearly been
saddled previously.
As with nearly all horses that come to CWER, we will start Jack at
ground zero, and build all his ground manners and pre-ride training
prior to putting a saddle or rider on his back. |
| Ideal
Career: NOT YET |
Until
Jack is riding
enough to show where his skills and interests lie, we
won't have a good idea of the best fit as a career.
His bloodlines scream "thinking horse sports" such as working cattle,
mounted shooting, barrels/poles/gymkhana gaming, trail work including
competitive trail/ACTHA, etc. |
| Stall
Manners: B |
On
Day 1, Jack has been
placed into Cheveyo's memorial pen -- with free access in/out of a
stall, to a small paddock, to the large outdoor round pen. He is able
to see a large portion of the main pasture, and can see the other
horses most of the day, but gets excited when any horse is led near him.
Jack clearly
knows how to enter and exit a stall like a gentleman on a leadrope. He
is now mannerly about being fed while in his stall, or out in his
paddock. He isn't 'hard' on his stall -- doesn't bang or kick or paw or
weave, unless there is a mare in the indoor roundpen (10' from his
door) in which case he gets quite excited. |
| Trailering
Skills: B |
Jack
is mildly nervous
about the trailer, but loads when asked. |
| Companionism/Pasture:
unk |
Jack
was not allowed
contact with other horses until his vaccinations are updated and we
have time to ensure he doesn't have any othe contagious illnesses. He
passed through those steps easily.
Jack is a danger to himself and to both mares and geldings if we
allowed him to go in our pasture, so he must remain isolated until his
gender issue is resolved.
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| Routine
Medical Care: D |
On
Day 2, Jack was sedated,
given his vaccinations, and examined to try to determine whether or not
he is fully gelded. Jack was aggressive and difficult with the vet, but
once sedated was found to be in excellent health, fit, and strong. He
appeared to have had one testicle removed in his gelding but not the
second. A few days later we were able to reach the vet who did the
surgery, and confirmed that he could not find the 2nd testicle and it
is almost certainly abdominal.
We are talking with both local vet hospitals to understand what our
options are for removal of the 2nd testicle. He has all the classic
stallion behaviors of screaming for the mares, 'showing himself', etc.
There is no way to know whether he is fertile or sterile. His
testosterone blood levels confirm he has one very active testicle,
blood levels clearly indicating he is a cryptorchid.
The current
estimate to surgically remove the testicle is $800-1500, if no
complications. |
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Overview:
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Jack is a
handsome, very classically built,
finely bred Quarter Horse. He appears likely to be set to go on to a
'thinking horse" career such as mounted shooting, orienteering, gaming,
etc, but we won't know for certain until his ground training is
completed and we find what seems to fit him best. He is a gorgeous
mover and a joy to watch in the paddock.
Jack has an unusual white "bracelet" on one foreleg. This is actually a
white sock, with a shorter brown/red sock over top, so only the taller
bit of white remains visible. This is a sobino pinto color marking, and
NOT a scar. |
| Adoption
Terms: |
It will be
some time before Jack will be far
enough along to set an adoption plan and fee for a 'normal' non-trainer
owner to adopt him.
If an experienced trainer showed interest in Jack "as is", we would
discuss making a special arrangement for him under those circumstances.
Jack is an exceptionally well built, well bred, classic quarter horse.
He is clearly an easy keeper, and we don't believe Jack has ever had
any soundness or other health issues.
Jack's adoption fee will be
determined after his cryptorchid gelding surgery and then once his
basic training is completed, and may be increased
over time as he acquires more training and shows more skill in
particular disciplines.
Please see our AdoptionQnA
pages for
details of how to adopt. |
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HISTORY:
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We honestly
don't
know what happened
in Jack's past. The story, as we understood it, is that he was a young
stud colt with numerous other horses when his elderly owner died.
Somehow the horses were forgotten or only partially cared for, and were
found in terrible conditions. We had once been told (4th hand) that
Jack had been too weak to stand, but when we spoke with the man who
rescued him out of that situation, that was a different horse's story
and not Jack. Jack was strong and healthy and they attempted to geld
him just 8 days after he was rescued. He gave us the name of
the
vet, who confirmed that he found only one testicle.
He has VERY fluid motion and no visible soundness
issues.
Jack has an unusual "pair of socks" on his right front leg -- a tall
white sock, and a shorter red/brown sock over the lower portion,
causing an interesting SPLASH of white like a bracelet, which is on his
original
papers. We're told it is a sabino color pattern and not all that
unusual, but is new to us!
We're
unsure what happened next, but
he was eventually transferred to a local wildlife sanctuary
who
does not normally handle horses. She
gave him sanctuary until she could find him a safe home. Our mutual vet
referred her to CWER, and we agreed to bring Jack here promptly. Jack
arrived excitable and clearly used to moving humans rather than having
humans be in charge, but otherwise seemingly very fit, strong, muscular
and healthy. We look forward to getting his vet care basics completed
and beginning ground training.
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| 6/26/2010: |
Jack has clearly
been allowed to bully and boss around humans for some time in his life.
But, just as clearly, Jack has also been a gentleman with proper
manners at one time. He is quickly realizing that we expect
him to be a good citizen here, and also that he is safe and will be
well fed and treated well here.
On his facebook photo album you can see photos of his first training
session
here at CWER. He was haltered in his temporary paddock, led to our
outdoor round pen, unhaltered and asked to work, natural
horsemanship style. He tried to fire his hind feet, to refuse to move,
to rush forward, to threaten to climb the rails. Then, as he decided
that maybe it really wasn't worth all that effort, he started to lower
his head, to ease his stride, to lock his inner ear to Mike, to chew,
and finally to truly relax.
Jack knows how to have his hooves handled, but hasn't been required to
in some time, and is currently unsure that he wishes to return to that
appropriate behavior. We simply asked him to lift and hold briefly for
tonight, and rewarded him for doing so.
It appears Jack had a woman in his life once, a soft-voiced, perhaps
younger human who he respected and trusted, and he has locked onto
AnnMarie's voice as reminding him of another time in his life.
Hopefully, that past memory will help him relax into his new routine
here and find his way forward into a new career.
At the completion of his training session tonight, Jack stood calmly to
have a lead put around his neck, haltered easily, and led properly
while inside the round pen. Outside the pen, he was excited but
managable as he wanted all 14 mares on the farm to know he was here,
and returned to his temporary paddock where he calmly allowed his lead
to be unhooked and he went back outside to watch the new world around
him.
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July 9,
2010
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We've spent
the last 2 weeks working on figuring
out Jack's past, and have met a few great people along the way. We are
still trying to fill several holes, but have made some progress.
In the mean time, we've been asking Jack simply to settle into a normal
routine here. To mind his manners when given his grain and his hay, to
yield to humans coming in and out of his paddock, to be polite and
friendly to visitors at his fence. These simple tasks have been
bringing his manners forward, and we're pleased with his progress
there. It will take some time before the bullying is completely gone,
but it is retreating nicely. |
| July 24, 2010 |
Jack
continues to make very nice progress here.
We are still making only small requests of Jack, as our primary focus
for him is figuring out how to afford and complete his gelding surgery.
Jack now stands (nervously) for flyspray. He usually yields his hind
quarters with little fuss when asked, and is quickly learning that
pushing his body INTO people when asked to move away does not get him
any rewards or reprieves, so he is now doing much better about moving
his shoulders away when asked as well. He is leading with better
manners and, while he still gets excited if a mare comes into the
indoor roundpen (10 feet from his stallfront), when he is scolded, he
goes out into his paddock and waits for his door to be closed (sadly),
knowing that he is not going to be allowed to continue to 'make a fuss'.
Jack has had a lunging surcingle put on him, then a saddle. He was
clearly familar with both. I led him with a saddle pad completely
blindfolding his face, and he trusted and gave short steps with me
without panic. We continue to take small steps in these directions with
Jack, and he continues to make progress. He is a sweet boy under all
that hormonal-driven bravado. Someone will have a fantastic partner one
day soon. |
Sponsorship:
Jack needs medical sponsorship!
We don't
know yet exactly
what Jack will need, but at the least he must have a coggins test,
5-way vaccination, west nile and rabies vaccinations, overall medical
exam, proper deworming, dental work. Estimated costs:
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FEED SPONSOR: Please
consider sponsoring Jack. He will begin on Enrich 12, $35 per month.
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Transport to
CWER: $25
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Basic intake vet
care: $200, plus $98 for testerone blood tests (which confirmed he is
almost certainly a cryptorchid).
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Dental care: $125
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Farrier care: he
will
receive farrier care here at CWER by our own Mike Cross, unless
something unusual is found and requires treatment.
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Worming: We will
test his stools and treat as needed. Any base issues will be resolved
immediately, then $10 every 2 months for normal worming schedule.
Bloodlines:
(bloodlines
below, courtesy of www.allbreedpedigree.com.)
WOW! What a stacked
set of CLASSIC/Foundation bloodlines:
- 2 doses of Diamond,
- Two Eyed Jack,
- Holy Smoke,
- Skipper,
- Three Bars,
- Poco on top AND bottom,
- Leo & Leo3,
- Cody,
- WIMPY on top AND bottom,
- the list goes on and on...
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